Ep. 540 - The Informer on the War Powers Act - Part 2
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Vyzygoth: Welcome to another segment of the Grassy Knoll. It is February 8th 2007 and we're going to have on the I-Man for the second of a two-parter that began Tuesday and with Alan Watt in the middle. We will be talking about the War Powers Act and then we start I guess in the last 15 minutes or so hitting a couple other topics. I-Man was in good form because he had been down for quite some time with an illness and never really heard on that ebullient if you will. So I made the most of the while we could. We did it an hour and a half all told.
Vyzygoth: All right now, not realizing that I didn't update the upcoming shows, just to let you know tomorrow, Friday, February 9th, Bob Chapman is back for his monthly visit and then we're going to have Let's see, starting on the 12th, J. Beldo will be back. Talk about the CIA and I guess its impact on the counterculture or the culture of the times, especially as it relates to the 60s. And we're going to have Aunt Harriet. That's it. That's Harriet. She is a childhood friend of Andrew Colvin who did the Mothman series. She's going to come on and talk about some of the experiences she's had.
Vyzygoth: Also, you may remember Andy having mentioned Harriet during a number of the shows. Also, we're going to have Vets for 9-11 Truth on the 14th, Alphonse, who's been with us twice before. On the 15th, we're going to have Oniko Haupt. On the 16th, we're going to have Neil from the UK, and we'll talk more about that as we get into next week. Also, on the 19th and the 20th, we're going to have on Dave McGowan to talk about his most notable book on one day, and then we're going to talk about Flight 93 on another. We haven't figured out which is going to be which first, but that's coming up on the 19th and the 20th.
Vyzygoth: On the 21st, we're going to have Kent Benkowski from the Kent Reverse Papers. The 22nd, I haven't firmed it up, but that's usually when Uticons for 9-11 Truth come on. And on 23, I'm trying to get Angie from Think or Be Eatin' website. Also on the 26th, Monday, it's tentatively planned to have Eric John Phelps debate, a Muslim gentleman from the state of New Jersey, no doubt. And that's where we stand as far as what is going on for the, almost for the remainder of the month.
Vyzygoth: And I'll get that upcoming shows brought up to speed as we read them here. Also, you may have heard me refer to the Black Racer, R-A-I, excuse me, S-E-R, Black Racer, R-A-I-S-E-R dot com website. I refer to it because of the information they have there about uh... the nazi a masonic link so you might be uh... interested knowing that appear who's the uh... force behind that website is in fact coming on we hope to twenty seven to twenty eight and that's the way that around out for the most part of for the month of february right now will uh... be joining uh... i've been a second i'll see you after uh... the interview Coming up next from the grassy knoll, a terrifying look into the Orwellian world of brainwashing, disinformation, and ultimately control over you.
Vyzygoth: Also, at this time too, you've mentioned a lot of sites and such, and I mean sites with a C-I-T-E-S, but let's talk about your site, S-I-G-E-H-T. No, that would be S-I-T-E, sorry, don't want to confuse you. Yeah, don't let me talk too long. Alright, but your website, under ATGpress.com, you have a section as well as, and James still has one too, doesn't he?
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
Vyzygoth: Alright, now they can go there and just search for the informer.
The Informer: Yeah, and then there's three particular ones in there. The question is why. That's one of them. There's one there that says war powers. War powers in America today. The question is why and what's the other one there? I can't remember what it is.
Vyzygoth: What I'm looking at actually was where you have a table if you will with banking, government, common sense taxes, foreign America, social security. It's up in the very top, it should say War Powers I think.
The Informer: War Powers in America today, the question is why. And that will give you a running history from way back when in 1792. Washington first started it all the way up to present-day.
Vyzygoth: So folks, by all means please check that out. Is there anything else you want to tell folks about your section of that website?
The Informer: No, the only thing that I haven't put anything on there is have you seen the email about the Harman Kondo, the letter that was written by Judge Mercier?
SPEAKER_04: No.
The Informer: Okay. That just came out again now, 1985. Armand Condeau had a group, and he wrote a letter to Mercer, who was supposedly a retired judge, but I think he was a clerk, a federal clerk, and he had some good stuff. And I saw it back then, and it was another guy called Frank May, who I know personally, who wanted to get a little better insight and wrote to Mercier and asked him, gee, the letter you sent to Condo was good, but I need a little more information as well. I understand that he wrote him a 747 page letter. Okay.
The Informer: About a whole bunch of stuff. And the one thing in there that they had was What makes you a taxpayer? Because he had all these latches and these contracts that are invisible contracts and everything that you have. And in there he said that one of the invisible contracts that makes you a taxpayer is your bank signature card. Well, this goes back in 1985. I looked at it, he stuck in the back of my mind, didn't think much about it. Another fellow, a friend of mine, he does pretty good.
The Informer: You know, we just, one of those things, you know, it just crops up and you don't pay too much attention to it. Well, in the later years of doing all the research and finding out how the Federal Reserve note is the main reason of a taxation, because this private script has a lien on it already issued by the Federal Reserve, so they own it. You only have the use of it. And their situs is in Washington DC, naturally, because that's where the Federal Reserve is located. And he says that when you sign your bank signature card, you agree to, and I have seen this, you're supposed to get a 454 page contract.
The Informer: When you sign a signature card, this is not a signature card. That is a contract whereby if you read on the back of the signature card, it says you abide by all the rules of the bank. Well, we meant all the banks are private, right? They're all owned by the Federal Reserve. Most of them. They're controlled by the Federal Reserve. They're all separately there. There's state banks, there's federal banks, but they all get their directives from who? The Bank of England. Well, their front guy down here. Oh, okay, yeah, but whoever is the Secretary of Treasury.
Vyzygoth: Oh, okay. I was going to say the head of the Fed. All right.
The Informer: No. Well, the Secretary of Treasury just so happens to be the governor of the International Monetary Fund.
Vyzygoth: Oh, Wolfwood? Who is he now?
The Informer: I don't know. Some idiot. I can't remember his name.
Vyzygoth: Who? The Secretary of the Treasury?
The Informer: Secretary of the Treasury.
Vyzygoth: All right.
The Informer: Okay. He's the Secretary of the Treasury, but not of the United States. He's the Secretary of the Treasury of the Federal Reserve.
SPEAKER_04: All right.
The Informer: And he's also the governor of the International Monetary Fund. And the World Bank. And the Attorney General is the second alternate. So Gonzalez is the second alternate. And that's why neither one of them can subscribe in oath of office under Title 5 USC 3331. They can't because the minute they sign, they're in treason. because they stand up and take an oral oath but they don't subscribe to the oath because they're not officially United States citizens because they are operating for a foreign concern.
Vyzygoth: Okay, now the foreign concern would be?
The Informer: The foreign concern would be the Bank of England. The Bank of England, okay, right. Yeah, because the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England is one and the same. Now, so Mercyhurst said when you sign that signature card Then you agree to the bankruptcy. You agree to pay all debts. You agree to 7203, the Title 26. You agree to all of Title 26. That's your contract that makes you a taxpayer. No matter what you argue, it can't be a constitutional issue because it's a private contract, and private contracts take precedence over any constitutional issue.
The Informer: And that's why the judges said, don't bring the Constitution in here. It don't apply. You've got a private contract. They don't tell you you've got a private contract. And everybody wonders, where is this private contract? Well, it's your signature card.
Vyzygoth: So when somebody goes in and says, I'd just like to open a checking account.
The Informer: That's right. They're already savings, whatever. It doesn't matter. And the reason why I found this out is when the Bobby Carey case in 1995, when he sued the IRS the International Monetary Fund, the governor and all those in like you should. We had three days in a building where we could not take the 454 page contract out of their site. So John Nelson and me and about five other researchers were there because I was an expert witness. We had three days to look at it.
The Informer: Now, you can't digest 454 pages of all this fine legalese in three days. I don't care how many people we was all looking at it. We have one book. How many people can you get around? You got three people looking over each other's shoulder, you know? But in there, oh man, I mean, you know, you give your life away. But now, Mercyhurst said that this is how they do it. But I'm thinking just the other day, When I got it again, it looked at it that, Hey, wait a minute. UCC is involved. It's private international law. It's private contract.
The Informer: Therefore it's fraud on the fact them because they never gave you the contract to begin with. And under UCC, with the acceptance going into title section nine of the UCC, you got to read all that. and then go into your contract acceptance in Chapter 3 and you'll see how you can get out of it. But once you know and you go in, you can't get out of it because you are forewarned.
Vyzygoth: What do you mean by once you know? In other words, if you have this information and then you sign?
The Informer: If you have this information, you can't fall back on it and say, I didn't know. They didn't tell me. Well, wait a minute, you knew. This is only for people that don't know.
Vyzygoth: Well, okay, so now I say I know.
The Informer: Well, you really don't. You just heard it from me.
Vyzygoth: Right.
The Informer: You don't have an authoritative source where you know from.
Vyzygoth: Well, how would you demonstrate?
The Informer: That's right. There you go. There's the fraud. See how they got you?
Vyzygoth: Well, how would one demonstrate a previous knowledge?
The Informer: You ask them under FOIA. What is the basis of authority that you have on a contract that I might have signed that brought me into your fold? Sort of, you know, in a roundabout way. You can phrase it any way you want. But that is how you have to do it. And I don't know if you'll ever get an answer. I've never tried it. I didn't have to when I did my complaint. I went right to the source and I got non-tax payer status and since 1998 I don't have to worry about it.
Vyzygoth: You don't pay IRS? No. So what do you think about the Ed Brown situation?
The Informer: He doesn't know. He's out on left field somewhere.
Vyzygoth: This is really misguided isn't it?
The Informer: Yeah, totally misguided.
Vyzygoth: And this can only come to ruination? Probably.
The Informer: Yeah, he's going down the tube. See, anytime anybody goes into court, anytime, Consider yourself cooked, you're done, you lost. The minute you step in the court, you lost. All it is is how much money are you going to give us? How many years do you want to spend in jail? I just had a friend, I'm not going to name names or anybody or where he's at, but he and I was conversing and he said that he was getting something for me from my race car. He told me, he says, you know, he said, give me a week. I got to go somewhere and yada, yada, yada. OK, all right. And then he says, the wolves are howling at my door.
The Informer: So I called him, no answer, no emails. The emails kept kicking back. His cell phone didn't answer. I finally found out from someone in California who had paced her that this guy was arrested and put in jail for failure to appear on a summons in court. And he went to court and he said, from what I understand now, he had made arrangements with the IRS to go to court to settle this on a compromise, an offer of compromise. Well, guess what? He went to court. It was later. He had worked it all out, went to court, just like you see on TV. Oh, we'll help you out. We'll do this. We'll do this. And then they get you in court and you're cooked. You know?
The Informer: Well, that's what happened. He thought he was going in, get this all straightened out, all nice. And it just happened last week, Monday, Tuesday.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
The Informer: And he's now sitting in jail because whatever charges he's got, he did not appear, argue the case correctly. He just refused to count and argued it on paper.
Vyzygoth: So they suckered him to come in?
The Informer: Yeah. And that's what they do with everybody.
Vyzygoth: If he didn't go in, what would have happened? They would have sent the Martials out and the rest of them anyway. Oh, they would have, okay. Also, is it because of the War Powers Act also that we've existed under Admiralty law and courts?
The Informer: Oh, we always have because the Constitution was set up under Admiralty. If you go and pull it up and you read the 1789 First Judiciary Act, the whole thing was set up. And if you read Benedict on the Admiralty in Matthew P. Bender's books, like the seventh edition, if you can get back to the first edition, which nobody can get, but I do have a copy. It makes it so clear that a grade school, I'm talking eighth, ninth, tenth grade school person, woman, kid, could pick it up and read it and understand it. The first book, very first time.
Vyzygoth: All right, so they didn't put all the legalese and stuff in there, right?
The Informer: No, but it was old time stuff and now the new books, even the seventh, when I got complete 26 volume of the seventh and you go through that and read it, man, I mean, it tells you right in the very beginning in Benedict and the first two volumes. That's all you have to read is the first two volumes. The rest is like wallpaper. The other 24 volumes, they're all good. I mean, they all have something in it. But the first two volumes goes through the whole entire history of the Admiralty and how this Constitution in the United States was formed under Admiralty principles. Now you got to remember this. Weren't we a bunch of colonies?
The Informer: Weren't we an international law? Yes. We were international colonies who turned into international states still operating under maritime law because everything operated through ports. All the products from this country going and shipped out operated through maritime principles.
Vyzygoth: Are you saying that from the time we were colonies through the time we were states there was only one method of conveyance and that was obviously what we would call surface shipping by water? Right. And that's why Admiralty ruled?
The Informer: Yep. And that's why in 1857 the United States was the only country that they brought Admiralty in land so that they could use the produce of the farmers under international maritime law. Even when you go through title insurance on your house, it's maritime law and that's how the states can operate and control your so-called property because they are listed as a beneficiary on title insurance.
The Informer: There's a man in North Carolina here that found this out and is in the process of trying, and he already did, stripped himself and told them he wanted no more title insurance because the lawyer did it But the lawyer wrote it up and did not include the state as the beneficiary, which it is. And he left that in there, and this is what he's fighting for the past four years on it.
The Informer: And if you eliminate the title insurance and eliminate the beneficiaries, they have no beneficial interest in that property. Therefore, how can they tax you?
Vyzygoth: So not only is this a scam for being able to tax, but also we are looking at a situation where I guess you could say we never, and certainly don't have now, any alloidal title.
The Informer: There's never been an allodial title in the United States, ever. Only an allodial title, and it wasn't even allodial, was to the seven proprietors. The seven proprietors owned all the land under Grant of the King, And Lord Granville, where I live in Granville County, that's why it's called Granville County, he was the only holdout when the King wanted his land back before the 1783 treaty.
SPEAKER_04: Yup.
The Informer: Okay. So now, you know, it's not enough just to research, but you've got to see what was piled on top of a pile on top of a pile on top. And when you put it all together, it makes a homogeneous mix. You don't have a lemon meringue pie where the lemon's on the bottom and the meringue's up top. You've got a whole mix, but it looks like the lemon meringue is separated, right?
SPEAKER_04: Right.
The Informer: Well, in ablity and maritime, and all these machinations are going on through insurance and stuff like that, which is all insurance. I don't care whether it's health insurance, car insurance, life insurance, any kind of insurance you've got is straight out of the maritime. and the steamboat in New Jersey and all that when you go back and research it. And even the Snide Act, which was land ownership through mortgages through the Snide Act case, was a straight admiralty case and everybody thinks it was a land case on a mortgage on a property in Michigan. Had nothing to do with the water, right? Right.
The Informer: Well, insurance does. anything with insurance on it, pet insurance, house insurance, wife insurance, death insurance, medical insurance, you name it, anything with insurance is Admiralty maritime jurisdiction.
Vyzygoth: Admiralty and maritime are one and the same?
The Informer: Well, not really. Admiralty is the law by which it's applied and maritime is the modus of operation of which the Admiralty has cognizance of. Admiralty was really the Admiral. When the Admiral came over, he represented the King. And that's why they called it Admiralty. And then when these colonies were formed, when the Admiral came over from the ship, he is the King. He had the power of everything on the King. And he could come into the land and go 200 miles inland, he's still the admiral.
The Informer: He still rules the colony. Now you can start to see where admiralty and maritime jurisdiction under international law is what they are operating under the war powers.
Vyzygoth: And I fear we're going to see this for the rest of our lives.
The Informer: Yes.
Vyzygoth: And especially as we go to globalism, that's still going to be the rule. Oh yes, most definitely, yes.
The Informer: It's all international. The international law has to be under maritime, no matter what. Going back to Pardesius, to the Romans, to England, it all emanated from Hammurabi, 4000 BC.
Vyzygoth: So we have come full circle?
The Informer: Yes, we've come full circle. And it was only through the Admiralty maritime, because when you look at Title 28, in the very beginning, which nobody bothers to go in, all the prefaces in the very beginning of Title 28, it all says, stares you right in the face, this is that Admiralty document. Title 28 is straight Admiralty. When you get into Title 24, or I'm saying, Title 26, that's all Admiralty, all revenue is Admiralty. Now, when you get into Title 28 and you go to 2460 to 2465, when you read in there, one of the sections is 2465, it says it must be as near as Hamilton has can be. Because Hamilton has two sides to it.
The Informer: you have the criminal side, which is the admiralty first instance prize and capture, who then, if you get into the admiralty court, reverts to the civil side. And it'll tell you that, right in the rules. And in fact, in the cases, in the book that I had put in there, in the New History of America, you'll see I used the two cases, a Ford and a 1962 Chevrolet or something like that. There's two separate cases. And they tell you right in there that they were seized under Admiralty principles and then reverted to the civil side of Admiralty in the federal court.
Vyzygoth: Actually, you know, if people would check, certain sections of what's called the classifieds, you will find, I guess, the seizures and such, and auctions.
The Informer: Oh yeah, the IRS always has to put it in there.
Vyzygoth: Yeah, and it's under Admiralty Law. You're absolutely right. And everybody can check their own daily newspapers. The bigger ones, like the average review here, will definitely show that, and it's a hoot. Yeah, that's definitely mentioned.
The Informer: Especially, like, you know, you get the felt out of the Inquirer, the New York Times, the Charleston paper down in South Carolina there. I mean, they're all port towns. So they have much more of a chance of seeing it there. And any IRS that puts a seizure in it must be in Abrilty and satisfy all the procedures that must go through even to the U.S. Marshals because the U.S. Marshals are governed by Abrilty maritime. And that's why U.S. Marshals, when they seize a boat, from the millionaire or something, they have to have a bond. And they're bonded under maritime principles to operate, to seize that ship under Admiralty Law.
Vyzygoth: Yep, we can't make this stuff up.
The Informer: No, you can't.
Vyzygoth: It's amazing.
The Informer: It's there for everybody to see, but most people are not educated enough to begin with to know this. Once you're educated and you start, all of a sudden, looking at all this stuff that's going around you, and she says, that's Abilby, that's Abilby. I mean, hey, you know, the gold fringe flag is the admiral's flag, the commander in chief, and that's why, under military principles, you will always see a gold fringe flag in any courtroom.
Vyzygoth: Well, I'm going to bring it to an end.
The Informer: It doesn't mean that it's a military court. It is. because it's controlled by the commander in chief. And all symbolism has been lost by the majority of the American people today.
Vyzygoth: Well, we've grown up with it, it's true.
The Informer: And we've not questioned it. And it's just because of the education system that has been ramped down everybody's throat. And now you're getting judges and law clerks and attorneys who are just as dumbed down as the average American is to all these symbolisms in law and old time history because when I had the Clemson professor call me up when he was in England and he said, now, what did you want? I said I wanted the Treaty of Peace. That's all I want. If you can give me a certified copy of the treaty from the library, the London Library, because only law professors can go in. Even if I could get over here, I couldn't win.
The Informer: And he says, okay, when he came back and he gave it to the fella that ended up giving it to me because I couldn't make it down to South Carolina to Clemson at the time, and he says, I couldn't believe it, the professor says, I couldn't believe that I saw a law from 545 A.D. that I know in fact exists today and is operating. I couldn't believe what I saw in all these, of all these old laws that are operating today on the people.
The Informer: He's a law professor.
Vyzygoth: Okay, then I have to ask you, when he came back or whenever he digested all this, what was his presumption of the way things are?
The Informer: He couldn't believe it. He says, man, I have to rethink a lot of my stances, and he says what I'm teaching in school is wrong.
Vyzygoth: That's right.
The Informer: The Admiralty book that I got from the law professor down there in the University of Texas when he gave me Robertson and he wrote the book on Admiralty and Federalism and it's the History and Analysis of the Problems of Federal-State Relations in the Maritime Law of the United States. It was printed in 1970. I got, well, I didn't get the autograph copy. The other fellow got, he got the autograph copy. He gave me the copy that he didn't autograph.
The Informer: And he says that he was forbidden to publish this book anymore and they took it out of the University of Textbook series. It was a University of Textbook series, especially designed for collateral reading by Harry Jones, professor of law, Columbia University. And this was made by the foundation Trask Incorporated in Mineola, New York in 1970 of January.
The Informer: And I mean, it just goes out and it just lays it out so much as to how this country is operating and has operated under international maritime law. And that is one of the genesis that brought in, and it says, the framers of the Constitution intended to establish jurisdiction and not to prescribe particular codes or systems of law.
The Informer: The constitutional grant of judicial power in all cases, our admiralty and maritime jurisdiction was no more intended to make the rules of the maritime law binding upon the federal courts of common law than to make the rules of common law binding upon the courts of admiralty. It's a quote right out of the book on page 190.
Vyzygoth: So that book has been disappeared?
The Informer: It's disappeared, yes. Me and about three other guys are the only ones that's got copies of it.
Vyzygoth: I tell you what, we're running a little bit over, but if there is something I wanted to ask you, if you're feeling up to it.
The Informer: Okay. Yeah, I don't have to go anywhere real fast right now.
Vyzygoth: Okay. Sounds like you're in a bathroom, but that's okay. Well, you know, you did mention something before, and this is something that's probably I'm a little bit more attuned to since having moved down in the South. And what I'm going to say, I don't want everybody to get all crazy and say, well, you know, you think slavery is good? No, I don't. However, there were some, I think, tenants to which the southern states adhered that I think made good sense. I'll let you address that if you wish. Also, what an absolute screw job the Southern states got after being readmitted into the Union.
Vyzygoth: First of all, do you believe, if we were doomed anyway to a certain extent, that at least the Southern states had it together as far as wanting to be free of a central government?
The Informer: Because remember, the Declaration of Independence is just that. It's a declaration. It's not law. It's not binding upon anybody. It's just what somebody declared. Just like Spooner says, he can go upon the Commons of Boston and declare whatever he wants. That doesn't make it authoritative, it doesn't make it law. It's just those who want to believe what he says believes what he says and those who don't want to believe it, they don't have to believe it.
Vyzygoth: You were saying about?
The Informer: Yeah, the gross national product of the South was three times the North.
Vyzygoth: Alright, restate that. What was the gross national product of the South? Three times. As larger than the North?
The Informer: Of the North. I don't have any particular thing. This is all off the top of my head, so I'm trying to remember and I think if you put a number on it, it would be $3 million a month versus $1 million a month for the North.
Vyzygoth: Alright, so prior to the Civil War, is this correct?
The Informer: Yes, prior to the Civil War.
Vyzygoth: The South was kicking the North's butt economically.
The Informer: Oh yeah, big time. I mean, the ports of Charleston, forget about New York and Philadelphia ports. Charleston and all the southern ports, Virginia, they had so much more trade from them. Because remember, the South had a lot of cotton, a lot of peanuts, a lot of whatnot.
Vyzygoth: They had all the raw materials.
The Informer: They had all the raw materials, yeah. And the North, well yeah, they had, you know, Jersey had a lot of farming and Pennsylvania had a lot of cows. and farming, but nothing like the South because the growing season was so much better. They were more industrialized in the North than mining and oil and stuff like this, although they did have some oil fields in North Carolina over towards the coast more.
Vyzygoth: But oil doesn't become a real player until after the Civil War, even though they were aware of it.
The Informer: You're talking pine trees and stuff like this and forestry. and all kinds of plants and like you're in Florida, right? So you've got citrus fruits, right?
Vyzygoth: Right.
The Informer: There's no citrus fruits out there.
Vyzygoth: Oh no, not only that, but cotton was a big player too.
The Informer: Sure. That's what I say, cotton and before the bowl will you.
Vyzygoth: Okay, right.
The Informer: Yeah, and the shipping and whatnot, and they had so much more over the North. That's why the banks of France and the Prussians are and everything. That's why they dealt with the South much more than they did the North.
Vyzygoth: Let me ask you this, though, then, because you've stated that. So, states' rights, was that really the issue, or was it a fact that the South, as a bloc, was doing so much better than the North?
The Informer: Yeah, so it wasn't really states rights or slavery or anything like that. Even when you read Lincoln's papers, it wasn't over slavery. He could care less. He just wanted to control the South because of the money.
Vyzygoth: Now was the South making noise? prior to the Civil War, why were you even involved with these bozos?
The Informer: The difference between the bank, the Bank of England fronted most of the money up north, while the Bank of France fronted most of the money in the south.
Vyzygoth: Oh, so this still is an extension of European problems.
The Informer: That's right. And this is what people don't realize, you know, they got to get in. There's researchers and there's researchers. Just like there's doctors and doctors and mechanics and mechanics. There's some roughshod mechanics and there's some guys that your car's life on it, right?
Vyzygoth: But you know now, are you on board with the accounts that seem to be credible? I'm going to ask you that the Civil War was wreaking havoc to a certain extent with the economy in Europe. And the Brits had said, well the Brits had said, if you basically don't get this over with, we're going to come in. Now, apparently they moved troops into Canada. On the other hand, the French moved troops into Mexico. Now, I don't know how nefarious that was, some place that at the hands of the Vatican, who had told Maximilian to get over there and do that. On the other hand, you look at France, as you say, the Bank of France is backing the South. Then they have a little stake, so I don't know unless that's congruent.
The Informer: They have a lot of stake because you see the banks in France, the Bank of England, let's just say the private bank in England, has nothing to do with England, just a big conglomeration. Now a lot of these conglomerations of the people on the board of the Bank of England own the Bank of France. So there's in-fighting in there between these people, the German Fruggers. The Bank of England would not allow the German Fruggers, they called them, to be a member of their bank.
The Informer: They would not allow any Jewish people to be a member of their bank, no matter whether it was Rothschild or not. They were not Jewish-oriented, and they weren't German Frugger-oriented.
Vyzygoth: Well, did the Rothschilds control the Bank of France?
The Informer: To a great extent, yes.
Vyzygoth: But apparently they were independent enough that they could go ahead.
The Informer: Oh, yeah.
Vyzygoth: And obviously, you know, a bit against the Bank of England with the North.
The Informer: Right, right. Now, a good movie to see, and I can't remember, it was made in 1920, Neff Childs, and it was a whole story on the Rothschilds, and I saw it on TV once about eight years ago. Really? I wish I could have remembered what the name of it was, but you know, it was a good story. But knowing what you know on history and you looked at it, you got a totally different slant than the average person going to the movie theater, sitting down and watching it for two hours. I mean, there's so many things you pick up. Oh, that's why. Oh, that's, you know, it's just like boom, boom, boom, boom, right down the line.
Vyzygoth: Yeah, I don't mean to muddy the waters, but I will say this. There's an account where the Vatican and the Pope basically told Maximilian to get over there.
The Informer: Oh yeah, yeah, because you've got to remember who fronted the Vatican in the war in the Crusades?
Vyzygoth: The Rothschilds.
The Informer: That's right. So that's where the Vatican cabal with the Rothschilds, the bank and them, really took over control of the British subjects in 1215 because everything was turned over to the Vatican under the spoils of war. so that the king could be re-communicated and he was excommunicated and his soul was never to go to heaven according to them and back in those days you know they believed everything the Vatican said and therefore that's why he turned all this land and all the subjects even over to the Vatican control. Then the Vatican turned around and gave him power back as a like a proprietor like he did over here in America when he gave the seven proprietors control of all the land and he took a quittering tax instead of the minimum tax.
The Informer: That's how they were paid.
Vyzygoth: Well, you did say that the Rothschilds staked the Vatican during the Civil War or around that time?
The Informer: Yeah, and they staked a lot of them. They, believe it or not, the bank, the Rothschilds, Germany and the United States and England. He had his hand in all three countries fighting each other.
Vyzygoth: Have you ever read the book by Burt McCarty in 1929, The Suppressed Truth about the assassination of Abraham Lincoln? No, I never read that one. Here's what's interesting. Here's a book about the whole Vatican intrigues in the assassination of Lincoln, but it also says in kind of a forward kind of way, I mean the forward to a book, a prologue if you will, it says two things. One, it says that right now the Vatican's are in Japan, not the Vatican, the Jesuits I'm sorry, at the behest of the Vatican, are in Japan to instigate anti-American sentiment for a future war. And she writes this in 1929.
Vyzygoth: Another thing she stated was there was a time when the Rothschilds backed more or less financially the Vatican, but that has more than turned the other way around. There was a time when they got a helping hand, but the Vatican certainly.
The Informer: Well, that might be part of what I read in Manuel's book. Although I didn't read that particular book you're talking about, it did state as to why they told Stimson, who was the secretary of war at the time, told Rockefeller, told Roosevelt in 1933, When he first came in, Roosevelt wanted to fight Japan right then and there and they said no, by the time because this and this and this happened and the oil fields of your buddy Rockefeller in China, they're being attacked and this is why when they do that, now you can institute the war and that's what happened.
The Informer: In 1933 he wanted to start the war.
Vyzygoth: Well, I'm sure that he didn't want to do anything but he was instigated to do such, probably by the Rockefellers. And I tell you what, Smedley Butler said the same thing. Butler, obviously in Warren's Iraq, talked about making the oilfields safe in China for the Rockefellers. They got freaked out when Japan went nuts because they thought they would overtake that. Would you agree that presidents don't initiate anything, they are basically the executor of other plans? All is the front man. Yeah, and to this day he probably looms as the president with the most impact on American life and history while that took place.
Vyzygoth: I don't want to give you too much longer, but now that we're hitting all these things and I've not had a chance to talk to you in so long, Are you familiar with a book that was written by William Z. Foster, I guess, second in command for the American Communist Party back in 32 called Toward Soviet America?
The Informer: I read Bits and Pieces. I never read the whole book.
Vyzygoth: Okay, because I know they had been posted on the web and I'm going to assume that's where you probably read some of it.
The Informer: No, I read it in a hard copy when I was visiting somebody. Yeah, he had a hard copy of that book.
Vyzygoth: Alright, so you at least had it in your hands and you went through it. Okay.
The Informer: Well, you know, here's another thing that I think... I just briefed through it.
Vyzygoth: Okay.
The Informer: I was only there for about four hours and I only had an hour to just look at it.
Vyzygoth: Oh no, I got it. I mean, you will find parts of it, excerpts, on the web. But I mean, I understand you had a lucky dip and go as you had, you know, with the time you had. Yeah, I had a hard copy in my hand, yeah. Well, you know, here's another thing that I try to show people. If they're not going to buy conspiracy, Because conspiracy is real, just secret. One of the things I try to say to them is, why don't you go back and read some of these accounts of people who said, this is the way it's going to be, and then it came true. Well, Foster and 32 actually, I mean, to me, it seemed like a little laughingly. that he wrote, folks, this is what's going to happen in the United States. You're going to get federalized, federalized, federalized. And basically, you guys call it federalized, but it's obfetized. Now, he said this in 32.
Vyzygoth: Now, we understand that depression had an impact. We understand that the war did. But what I'm saying is, and as we will see again in our history very shortly, you make these events happen as a cause for a certain effect. So, yes, the stock market crash was definitely manipulated, and so were the wars.
The Informer: Yeah, because see, we never went bankrupt because the little section that I put on there, I actually had the Geneva books that everybody was claiming that they couldn't get. Well, they're there. I got them. I got them from another fellow. I had them for three months. Well, I'd say about a month. And then I had to give them back. And if they go on there, they'll read the Geneva books and excerpts from it. And you'll see that we were in no way were we bankrupt. And in fact, Firestone was instrumental in bailing out the United States debt to two countries. He actually paid the debt. Geez.
Vyzygoth: So Firestone did this.
The Informer: Yes. And it even goes in and shows how the IRS was operating in every country, proving that it's private, firing.
Vyzygoth: All right, so they are collecting... So the IRS, in fact, is what they say it is, and that is the collection agency for the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England.
The Informer: The Reserve and the Bank of England, yeah, because the Exchequer is the same as the Bank of England, is the same as the Federal Reserve here. They're all one happy family.
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
The Informer: So if the people of this country could look at every state and the United States as nothing but a corporation, a private corporation, operating outside the constitutional parameters, which in no constitutional parameter can be brought in in a private sector law for any defense whatsoever. In fact, private law supersedes any constitutional law.
Vyzygoth: It's always been a bad business.
The Informer: Yes. And yours right back to your maritime, admiralty, international law.
Vyzygoth: Now the information that we've been getting since I'll never be in that situation and never have been about having a child birth in a hospital, is it true what they say about the child being issued an SS number right there?
The Informer: Yeah, they can issue an SS number, but I've known people that has dropped that and they took it off. One was up in an Indian hub in Pennsylvania. I can't think of the name of the case right now, but he got it removed.
Vyzygoth: For a short time?
The Informer: Until she became 18 or whatever it was and then... You're back into it? Yeah.
Vyzygoth: Alright, so at least they're issuing them from birth and of course you can get I guess some cessation for about 18 years and then you're back into it. Right, right. And so most people aren't going to go ahead and fight that, are they? No, no. And that whole bit about capital letters and the birth certificate and everything else, is true that you are the corporate And to be known as John Smith? Or is that something different there?
The Informer: The capitalization does have a bearing on it, yes. But whether the birth certificate, because I went back into a lot of the laws and back in the 20s when the maternity laws came into effect and all that, and I'm still out in, you know, I still reserve some judgment on that, but the birth certificate, some people get really carried away with it and they go off so deep on there that you look at it and you just laugh.
Vyzygoth: What you're referring to also is a lot of the legends that have been promulgated by the Patriot community.
The Informer: Right, right. Like I say, a lot of the legends are being promulgated by the Patriots back in the 30s and 40s and even before the people today were born. And, you know, I was lucky to have some parents that died in the 90s that gave me some good stuff and good information all the way back. How bad Roosevelt was. I mean, they hated him. You know, and everybody's saying, oh, how wonderful he was. And mom and dad hated him, you know. And they weren't really patriots. They were just educated people.
Vyzygoth: Sensible.
The Informer: And, you know, I didn't believe everything the government told them. And, of course, that's what bought me up in that line of thinking. And even when I first got my job in 1955, you know, I got out of school, I got a job, and I had to give it to Social Security. And I didn't know at the time, so I went down, I got a Social Security number, and then I was complaining because when I saw them taking the money out of my check, the first check, Why the heck do I have to do this? I shouldn't have to pay for this.
Vyzygoth: Wasn't that whole idea that Social Security was supposed to be a band-aid for a particular time and then it was supposed to be vacated?
The Informer: Yeah, that was actually, the Roosevelt instituted that only for federal old age assistance. It wasn't for it to be in the states. But they wangled it around so they could get it in the states.
The Informer: and touted as insurance when it wasn't because Altmeyer, who is the instigator of that, I've got his congressional hearings in 1953 where he comes out and says that was a fraud, that was wrong, they issued the wrong stuff and it wasn't insurance and it wasn't this and I think that's on ATG press too. If not, it's in the book, The New History of America, and he gives excerpts from it. I've got the whole thing here. He goes right out and says, oh, it was only for civil service.
The Informer: Government workers. They lumped everything in because Congress under the War Powers Act said, we can do this, and they passed it and forced every state to use it. And that's why they call it, oh, well, it's state, it's not federal, it's all federal.
Vyzygoth: I could keep you forever and you sound like you're loaded for bear and you probably could stay on, but I can't do that to you. Well, I'll tell you what, they're going to ask for you to come back on again and I can't blame them because I want you to, but I would have to say this if we could end this on a certain note. You believe in Jesus Christ, don't you?
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
Vyzygoth: Alright, so you understand that the war is never lost.
SPEAKER_04: No.
Vyzygoth: Whatever happens on this earth happens, but it passes away and eternity is eternity.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
Vyzygoth: So, having said that, not being of a pessimistic mind, I have to think of that Sinatra song, I guess, what we know best with him, when he says, send in the clowns, don't bother, they're here. Oh yeah. Well, I would associate that with, don't worry about martial law, it's already here.
The Informer: Oh yeah, it's here.
Vyzygoth: And the fix has been in for some time.
The Informer: Well, it's really what you call martial law because the terminology is different. Military control without martial law. There is fine lines of distinction in there and we're not under martial law yet because under military law, that's what we're under. They allow the civilian population to go as they are going, but they are being controlled by unseen forces as to what to do. It's when military martial law comes into effect, they actually have uniformed officers in those positions for handling it.
Vyzygoth: And I would assume, too, that that's when you're living life at the point of the bayonet. Right. But for now, at least administratively, governmentally... The military law. Okay.
The Informer: Military rule. It's not martial law, it's military rule.
Vyzygoth: Alright listen, thank you for being with us and just stay with us right there. And folks, you've been listening to the Iron Man, please go to atgpress.com, check it out, he's done all this work as James Montgomery has and a lot. It's probably the greatest little nugget that nobody knows about. You would respect all that's going on, go there, it's common sense. And thanks for listening to the show folks, we'll see you later. All right, you've been listening to the Eye Man. That was the second part of the two-part segment we did last week. And I think he may have misspoken. He sent me an email again last week.
Vyzygoth: And I think he wanted to say that you don't have the bankers. The bankers have you. It's the other way around than what he just spoke about early in the show. Also, in reference to that letter, by Mercier. If you want that, just send me an email and I'll send it to you as a word doc attachment if you want to read it. It's about six and a half pages. So if you want to look at that correspondence, I can send it to you. I looked on his website. I didn't see where that was. I'm assuming it's not there. So that's why, again, if you want it, just give me an email and we'll get that done. Again, tomorrow we're going to have on Bob Chapman. And on Monday we're going to have on Jay Beldo and we'll take it from there.
Vyzygoth: Thanks for listening and we'll see you tomorrow.
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