Ep. 208 - The Informer on the Constitution for the United States

0:59Vyzygoth: welcome to another segment of the other grass you know we have with us uh... once again the idea uh... new book coming out that we're going to talk about in a little bit of the title as you might remember from the last time we had a lot we mentioned it the constitution for the united states the myth and the reality Just who owns the United States. Also you can read many of his writings and also those of James Montgomery on ATG for Against the Grain. informerarchives.com. Just click on the informer. If you get past the people that they feature on the home page, you'll be okay. And I said that, not you. So how you doing on there?

1:37The Informer: Oh, not too bad. Doing pretty good.

1:39Vyzygoth: all right uh... before we get into the book uh... i want to run two things by that has got people uh... all excited okay what is but twenty someone states i guess have uh... you know file resolutions or whatever and uh... in the house like uh... i would assume in their respective state houses uh... that they're going to declare their sovereignty And two things about that, I mean, I just want you to comment on it. First of all, I figured the 10th Amendment gave them that anyway. It may be that the feds got more overreaching, but there was always things left to the states to decide for themselves, and that usually was speed limits and drinking ages and abortion and all this.

2:23Vyzygoth: But I can't, and some of them may not take the stimulus package, but as far as I can see, if if what you said is correct and that is the constitution is a compact between the federal government and the several states being someone i guess companies of the larger corporation they never get that is no they're not uh... all the all the states uh... actually uh... general regenerated from the breakup of the reginald and company that ran from georgia

2:58The Informer: in the south all the way up to the St. Lawrence Seaway and from the Atlantic Ocean over as far as Ohio. That was all the Virginia Company. That was called Virginia. And when those particular territories in the Virginia colony broke up, they formed what is called the states. Well, they were colonies, but they were actually a state of the king. because what they did is they made the estate into the word state.

3:33The Informer: And when they wrote their constitutions, they had actually stated in their own constitution that they could not, you know, after the Civil War is when they wrote the constitution for present-day rule, And that is that they cannot secede from any union.

4:04Vyzygoth: uh... that was that was going to be my second question i think a lot of folks or believing that this is the beginning of a move to have some states seed from the union and so it but yeah again uh... you keep you know you're not going anywhere you're not going to violate the contract first of all second of all would you just uh... expand on that because it was my understanding to though i didn't know where i could find it that the united states government was never the federal government was never going to let this thing happen again

4:32The Informer: uh... here they uh... uh... in fact in the constitution of carolina to have it right in front of me and section five it says allegiance to the united states every citizen of the state owes paramount allegiance to and government of the united states and no law or ordinance of state in contravention or subdivision thereof can have any binding force so why are these states going to to see when uh... their constitution forbids them to see that uh... yet but just yet and it's also a practical factor here too we're going to talk about business which is what it all comes down to the money yet it's all corporations in other words uh... they're just a corporation and it's just like chevrolet saying all well we're going to see from general motors and we're going to have our own corporation i mean it's it's that simple it's that basic

5:30Vyzygoth: Well, and it also gets into other things, too, and that is the states are so, it seems to me, inextricably tied into the federal coffers. I mean, what would the cutoff of funds do? Now, I believe Montana... maybe back in the seventies or sometime uh... told the feds it's ridiculous for us to go to fifty five miles an hour because if anybody's ever been on i-ninety in montana you couldn't get into an accident even if you tried right so it was kind of ridiculous but anyway apparently is the story goes by remember this correctly but i said okay if you're not going to give us funds of the d o t if we don't observe your federal speed limit go take a mission of them right now i think they pull that off i don't know and that's all well and good but the things that people are forgetting about is where is your social security coming from where is your unemployment insurance coming from uh... where is the money for education coming from you're gonna be able to handle all this and if you're in new hampshire let's say which is the state that always makes or at least people there make all this noise about succeeding it's like so what do you do now you've got a truck and you wanted to get involved in a state commerce all right what do you do the minute you cross the white river

6:31The Informer: uh... yep that's right because okay south carolina uh... has going out of uh... and and told the government to shove it in certain of their motor vehicle laws because uh... uh... they don't have inspections at all same before and uh... they did but then they went out and said that uh... uh...

6:56The Informer: well screw you we're not going to go with the uh... pollution controls and yada yada yada and they just flat-out refused and and they didn't do it and uh... they're not complaining about not having money all right so south carolina also from their nose and can live without whatever's being withheld from them in that particular area now in uh... article one of the state of north carolina it says of the people in section three says internal government of the state the people of the state shall have the inherent and sole exclusive right of regulating internal government and police thereof and of altering or abolishing their constitution and form of government whenever it may be necessary for their safety and happiness but every such right shall be exercise in pursuance of law consistently with the Constitution of the United States."

7:57The Informer: Well, that sounds pretty good, right?

7:59Vyzygoth: Right.

8:00The Informer: Section 4, secession prohibited. This state shall ever remain a member of the American Union. The people thereof are part of the American nation. Didn't say United States, did it?

8:13Vyzygoth: Right.

8:13The Informer: There is no right on the part of this state to secede and all attempts from whatever source or upon whatever pretext to dissolve this union or to sever this nation shall be resisted with the whole power of the state." Now that's Article 3 and Article 4, right together. So one is saying that they can throw off their Constitution and they can throw off their government, and in the next section it says they can't. They can't leave the United States

8:45Vyzygoth: Yeah, I wonder too, I haven't looked at the Florida State Constitution in some time and there's been a certain number of them as well and whether or not that clause is very emphatic in those states that did secede. I have to take a look now and also, I mean maybe you know this and this really is a digression but I don't even know if they ever rescinded the Reconstruction Acts.

9:12The Informer: No, they didn't.

9:14Vyzygoth: and uh... you know if you think about that period history i mean it's one thing you let him back in the union uh... because they're afraid they're not going to ratify the thirteenth or at least the fourteenth amendment you put them on the martial law again i mean it's nuts so you know anyway that's and so it goes but the only other day they uh... you know they they got it down now north carolina is not one of those twenty states and uh... i'm i'm pretty sure that this is why they're not going for that because it's written right in their constitution they can't do it well another thing is going around to this will be the third and the last thing and that is uh... especially tom dewey's from the american policy center i think is going around making himself look like a hero uh... because supposedly he and uh... the people who are are involved or who support the american policy center are responsible or in the process of being responsible to uh... prevent a constitutional convention uh... to be called right and i gotta go check to see whether or not this is happening in states for it was never one of the mentioned and i cannot find a list of all the ones that are supposedly in that situation.

10:21Vyzygoth: It's something like 27 to 32, depending on what story you read, and it only lists less than that. I asked him for a complete list, he didn't give it to me. I got a problem with him in a lot of cases, although we've never spoken, except he was on the show years ago about property rights, did a good job. But I've been watching him lately though and to me he's claiming victories for stuff that isn't even happening. Now having said that, can you tell me anything about any kind of mumblings in state houses about wanting to call a new constitutional convention?

10:50The Informer: Not here in North Carolina.

10:52Vyzygoth: There's none in Florida either but supposing?

10:54The Informer: None in South Carolina because I know people in South Carolina.

10:57Vyzygoth: but the thing is, I remember this in the seventies, whenever enough, I guess people got PO'd.

11:01The Informer: Oh yeah.

11:02Vyzygoth: You would hear the talk about a constitutional convention. It never happens.

11:05The Informer: Nope. Same thing happened in about 1986. When I lived in another state in the Northeast and there was a big hullabaloo about having a constitutional convention then too. And that was about 1986. I don't know if it was nationally known, but it was all around the Northeast, you know, uh... virginia uh... up to maine yeah and pennsylvania in good and i'll i hope that in all the northeast region all those particular middle and states northeast states it also

11:41Vyzygoth: first of all they're never going to let that contract be broken i don't know because it does tie in the old world uh... and that's just what takes place in the united states and secondly people don't get the fact that even if they created something else it would still have any bearing on that it would not help them out in the least you know which is one of the reasons why i guess i'm getting more more unpopular because people want to believe that somehow some way this whole monolith can be stopped notice a federal government right and it's too late and and what are you going to do i mean and the other thing is also people wonder why they can exercise we've been over this ad nauseam their constitutional rights in the federal courts because obviously you have done right there is no constitutional rights uh... just like to work said when he was up for nomination he says give me one

12:34The Informer: of a right that the constitution gave because i can't that was what he said within somebody will go back and we'll what about the bill of rights yeah yeah there's a bill of rights which is not in the main body of the constitution and it will have its own preamble and it's totally separate and was only put there to satisfy the people at that time they were claiming that they wouldn't sign this good but now i didn't sign the constitution tool well after seventeen eighty seven because there was no bill of rights and they wanted a bill of rights but uh... you know it's it's it's meaningless uh... has no bearing on the the main body of the constitution uh... the way it was read all right now we're going to get into uh... the latest book that you have at the constitution for the united states the myth and the reality just you know you know i mean let me go into one thing in north carolina only a certain in article uh... fourteen which is miscellaneous.

13:35The Informer: And of course it gives a seat to government and general laws and continuity of laws and all that. But it says, and we found this rather incredulous and nobody in Raleigh in the judiciary department could even explain it. And when we showed it to them state boundaries, the limits and boundaries of this state show be and remain as they are now. That's it. And when we showed this and took this constitution down to North Carolina to rally, the lawyer in the attorney general's office couldn't believe it.

14:19The Informer: He at first laughed and he said, that's ridiculous. Let me see that. So we came to the home and he says, huh, well, we know why. uh... because there was no boundaries that was set up because they're operating under the virginia company within you didn't you tell me that those boundaries in effect and let's just use north carolina don't they extend do west like in the mississippi all the way to mississippi that's right in other words what is tennessee now was north carolina What is South Carolina just now went all the way over and took out part of Alabama and everything went all the way over to the Mississippi.

15:06Vyzygoth: Is there any message of that that makes any difference now or is that something that just has been kind of run over?

15:17The Informer: They broke it all up and now of course they got all the boundaries that are listed there. But in the original and in this latest Constitution, which is, let me see, I just put it back, I'm trying to, this is 1989, the Constitution of North Carolina History and Content as of 1989, issued by Rufus Edmondson, Secretary of State of North Carolina.

15:45The Informer: and so up to nineteen eighty nine it's still there and they haven't changed it and we because they haven't changed the constitution since then so it's still there well that also mean that if you carve out tennessee let's say from north carolina whenever was uh... brought to bear upon north carolina by extensions brought to bear upon tennessee yeah now remember any constitution didn't say that they could never take a state and break it up and make another one hey that's what they did Tennessee was North Carolina, they broke all of North Carolina right in half and right at the border over there now in the Great Smokies, that was the dividing line, and that goes against what the Constitution of the United States said.

16:31Vyzygoth: Well, they carved out West Virginia from Virginia as well, isn't that right?

16:34The Informer: Sure, yeah.

16:35Vyzygoth: And I don't know, this may have been grandfathered, I kind of think it is, but tell me. I mean, also, they carved Massachusetts out of Maine,

16:42The Informer: right was a pre-constitutional though i guess it was yeah that was that was yeah yeah because that was called the massachusetts bay note and uh... there was uh... big discrepancies up there at that time and that's where they broke off into the road island massachusetts connecticut you know there was all one land mass there uh... called massachusetts and of course they broke up that

17:08Vyzygoth: but that would be four okay so one one thing just uh... uh... kind of tongue-in-cheek but it's true uh... there was not one not two not three but by all accounts from historians down in florida there were probably seven wars between the seminoles and the federal government what's interesting is the seminal service on a a peace treaty okay effectively the still at war with the government but when i left that is that uh... or a secretary of state uh... mccullum i think it is i forget is starting to lean on the indian gaining uh... operations and i know that's what they're doing here in north carolina but i'm looking at this going you've got no jurisdiction right my right or wrong this is this is federal bed that because uh...

18:01The Informer: And they're making a big stink about the Cherokees over there and their gaming and their video poker and everything. But that's on Indian territory. And they're trying to horn in on that now.

18:19Vyzygoth: it's been on tv appear quite a bit and you know the disgrace wasn't as bad as it has been since lord since it since the first europeans came here it's interesting is that whatever you whenever the appeasement was to give the native peoples you know it was to get the rock piles up in south dakota yeah but that was ok until they found uranium underneath it and then they wanted their butts off that too same thing here in florida north carolina whatever they've got a good thing going they're running it very well and now the now the state's pissed off about it because it's a success and they can't leave that alone so go seminals

18:55The Informer: yep uh... florida state but anyway uh... okay uh... now why the new book why uh... the constitution of the united states the myth and the reality what's in here that we haven't seen before okay uh... started back when obama was running everybody was arguing that he couldn't be president so and so forth and uh... i kept it on the internet and that is not these people are crazy, you know, so many untruths and everything that are out there. I'm going to go and I'm going to research this and see just why they're saying Obama can't be a president.

19:38The Informer: And that's what started the book. That's as simple as that. And it ended up going into how we are controlled, where we were controlled by who, And the fact that the first nine presidents could not pass the constitutional requirements to be a president. And that's what basically started the whole block. And a lot of stuff, I can get it, and people can get it on the internet. And in the historical fact, A lot of people would say, oh, well, 1776, that's when we created the United States. No, it couldn't be.

20:24The Informer: It had to be after a treaty. And in the CIA.gov website, it states, and this is a historical fact right from the U.S. government, sometimes they do tell the truth, the United States never existed before the year 1783. quote, Britain's American colonies broke with a mother country in 1776 and were recognized as a new nation of United States of America following the Treaty of Paris in 1783. So forget about creating in 1776 and having a nation called the United States of America uh... america's donation the united states was the uh... corporation that came into being and the constitution was adopted in seventeen seven only by those who was drafted it it was never put to the people to ratify it and it goes to book goes into that and and how uh... because the pope dictated the terms of the treaty And the front man at the time was the king.

21:45The Informer: Remember, the Pope's got to sit way in the background, way, way in the background. He's mafia. We're talking about the black pope now because there always was a white pope who called himself the vicar, which is another big lie, of Christ. And the tenets of the Catholic Church and the Vatican that he now controls and did control one of the tennis was that no man in the entire world could ever owned possessions of real estate and uh... this book goes into explaining that and why and uh... from all the documents of government that i went in and got everything in there uh... just proves uh... such as the particular one here from the government's history of president's document you can find on the internet and i even state that in the book and it says john adams seventeen thirty five eighteen twenty six born in quincy massachusetts was the second president of the united states he was president from seventeen ninety seven eighteen oh one and then i underlined it in the book but was born a british jack right when it comes to what they're talking about obama right And because he wasn't a United States citizen.

23:14The Informer: Well, right here from the government's own document, all the way down to when Henry Harrison was born a British subject, which is true because remember, Britain owned all this Virginia land company in 1600 and before. And if all these presidents were born, like Washington, 1732. Adam, 1735. Jefferson, 1743. They're still on British soil. They were born as British subjects. Their mother and father were British subjects. James Madison, 1751. Monroe, 1758. Tyler, 1790. Okay.

24:04The Informer: 1783 is when the United States was officially and internationally recognized as a nation. 1783. Here, Tyler was born 1790, so they make no mention of him being a British subject. All right, his mother and father were British subjects, but he was born on U.S. soil. The way that the Constitution was set up, a Mexican crossing into California who is pregnant to get the medical benefits and all this, they have a child born in California, San Diego. He is automatically a U.S. citizen even though the mother and father are Mexican subjects.

24:50Vyzygoth: Right.

24:51The Informer: Now, so that's why John Tyler and Zachary Taylor was also and no mention of being a British subject. And even when it goes back to Martin Van Buren, do you know that he was the first natural born, they say, he was the first natural born U.S. citizen to become president? This is from the bibliographies of the presidents that you can find on the internet.

25:20Vyzygoth: He was born in 1782.

25:21The Informer: And he was born in New York state. yet what he was born in columbia new york and he was also did not speak english as a first language having grown up speaking dutch of dutch descent he was born december 2nd and december 5th 1782 in kinderhook new york yeah i was right there you know it was 1783 was a year later is when the united states was created so no way he can be a natural born u.s.

25:57Vyzygoth: citizen impossibility articles in the united states will increase till a year later uh... so he was born in what was a colony at the time and not the state of new york in fact i'd i used to pass by his birthplace all the time i never stopped him because it's right along uh... u.s. side that goes up the side of the uh... hudson and those who can look in columbia county

26:25The Informer: Now, in the book, I'm only up to like page 16, but in the book it says, I explain how that when the king wrote the treaty, he put in there the most holy undivided trinity. And he was also called the archtreasurer of the United States. He still was. went back up into 1213 where the king gave all his property and subjects to the pope to be re-communicated so his soul could go to heaven.

27:07The Informer: And all the British subjects, their souls then could go to heaven. Now, at that point The Vatican owned the entire British Empire and all of its subjects. All the king's subjects were turned over to him carte blanche. Now, when they created the 1787 Constitution, it wasn't by the framers. That's one big myth. That's why the books are called The Myth and the Reality. What happened was, and this is in major documents of the United States anybody can find on the internet I gave a lot of sites in the book otherwise this book would be humongous and people couldn't afford it but I took like where they can find it British Museum production GRC Davis entitled Magna Carta and American Council of Christian layman and and I give also other sites where they would have to go to the library to get it.

28:14The Informer: They couldn't get it on the internet. It's not there. But I do have email sites where they can go and pick up a lot of this to show to them themselves what you're looking for. Like some of the sources I got was treaties and other international acts of the United States of America. and from the government printing office in 1931, and other ones like the library, BYU, education and all, and the rest of it coming out to the European documents.

28:55The Informer: And they can go on this while they're reading the book and go to their computer, sit there, type in the site, and boom, they got exactly what is in the book, only more detailed. The Framers, when the Pope found out that the King was trying to get rid of his properties over here and the Bank of England was involved in this too. There were three people who were involved in this deal. The Bank of England, the Pope, and the King.

29:36The Informer: They were all had their hands in this pie over here. So what happened was they formed a cabal and what they did was present it to the people. Hold on just a second. My son just come in. And he just wrote something for me and walked out. And he just had his traffic case dismissed. They tried to get him for running a stop sign. I'm just letting you know what happened.

30:19The Informer: And two tries and the cop never showed up. This time the cop showed up. He just walked in and wrote it down. The case was dismissed because he had all the documents. He even took his video camera out and I looked at it. and he took it down to the court and this is what caused him to win his case well it will be the first outside of the no no he didn't uh... the way that the cop was set up was that he was looking for spears and he just happened to be parked about a hundred yards down the road and there was an embankment where he comes and my son came down and he has a little And when the picture was, when I looked at it, there was a truck in front of him pulling the trailer.

31:09The Informer: So he pulled up and there was a stop sign. And the law says that you cannot go past the stop sign. You have to stop anywhere at that stop sign and you can stop two miles back if you want. There's nothing in the statute that says where you got to stop unless there's a mark. a white line marked out, then you can go up to the white line even if the white line is past the stop sign by 10, 20 feet. Well, when the truck pulled up, you could see my son's top of his car. That's all you could see, just the top. And he parked right behind the truck. The truck took off and left.

31:53The Informer: He inched up to the stop sign. You couldn't see the car. It's impossible to see the car. is so small. So he stopped. Then he took off and he come around and interview and the cop at that time he's moving like 10 miles an hour maybe 20 mile an hour. The cop gave him a ticket for running a stop sign because the cop couldn't see him. He was the only car that came up and that's what happened and so he recorded all that on his camera from both angles and uh... took it down to the court he got he left here about nine o'clock and he just walked in and wrote on here despised well you know i i've often wondered i didn't get any details on because we're on the walk on the air but uh... right who i was talking to you just wrote on the well we've paper i had a thought for a second but i will tell you that there are times i've wondered i've been behind a car that stopped for traffic entity you know where we've attracted to subside from the left and the right

32:57Vyzygoth: but i'm already stopped oh yeah and i can see what the car for the species so that car goes off and i go off and i like both you know what is the deal you know i was stopped i saw that there was nothing coming or do you know and then you wonder if you have to come up into your own little stop thing because your first in line you know what i mean yeah uh... no that's not true in north carolina and in new jersey uh... nobody stops in new jersey

33:23The Informer: and i know that uh... uh... he just went on to go to get a problem with that what the train goes through it starts again you go through a pool of all the cars with it but uh... no if in north carolina you're the third car then you have to stop you do your own stop but your second car the next car the immediate car behind it you're well within that twenty feet of the stop sign

33:49Vyzygoth: all right i don't i i hope you remember where we're going but before you do or don't i just want to say one thing too in that tree of paris a seventeen eighty three which was drafted by king george the third he also names himself the elector of the holy roman empire i'm assuming that means it's the pope's man in britain yes it's a frontman right that's why they say the holy under by the trinity and a lot of people's the trinity s three down who's the three people a lot of people would say oh

34:17The Informer: Well, it was the framers, you know, John Jay that they sent over there and Adams and all that and the king and, and, and who is the third treaty? Who is the third? The Trinity? Nobody knows. Well, the third party happens to be the Pope because the Pope owns this property of the king and the king being in his front, man, he ain't about to let his property go. So what they did was they adopted it. And it was confederacy up to that point. But right in the Constitution, in the documents that I got from the government, it says that the Constitution was adopted by the framers. Well, wait a minute. People don't understand what adopted means.

35:01The Informer: I'm going to tell you what it means. From the 1828 dictionary, ADOPT and HERB, one, legally take another's child, in brackets, and bring it up as one's own. Two, choose to take or follow. An option, of course, for action. Three, British. Choose as a candidate of office. Four, assume an attitude or position. To take or receive as one's own, which is not naturally so. And then they give the derivatives. And adopted, take as one's own, selected for use. So what it was, they adopted the Constitution. They didn't write it themselves.

35:44The Informer: It was written by the Cabal and presented to them and that's how the Constitution was formed and why the people had no say whatsoever as to the Constitution. And now when you go back and you read the 1788 Virginia Debates where Patrick Henry said who are in Patrick Henry in the debates I'll read the quote and with you don't know the foundation you won't know what he's talking about and you're left in limbo assuming what is not true and here's what it is but sir give me leave to do me a what right had they to say, we the people.

36:44The Informer: Now who were they that Patrick was talking about? The crown pope or the framers?

36:50Vyzygoth: The framers.

36:52The Informer: That's what everybody would believe.

36:53Vyzygoth: Right.

36:54The Informer: But it is the crown pope. I put crowns because it's plural because the crown was the bank of England and the crown could also be called the king. So it was the bank of England, the king and the pope.

37:11The Informer: that he was talking about and there was what right did they have to say we the people and then he says if the states be not agents of this compact which means a contract it must be one great consolidated national government of the people of all the states which couldn't be because the people never signed anything onto it there was no nothing whatsoever in any of the state constitutions of the original colonies that was given to the people to ratify it. Nothing.

37:46Vyzygoth: well no apparently the founding fathers were sent as the story goes by the elected representatives uh... of the thirteen uh... newly created states uh... it is that true i mean we look a little who who did that then i mean that they have their own state congresspeople in a senator you know what it was okay the the state formed first confederate everybody would would agree to that

38:15The Informer: What they did is those elite people who did own the states, the corporations of the crown, the king at that time, Virginia. Remember, it broke off. See, this book goes into much more detail than what we could hear on the radio show. And it walks you through a process when you get to the end of the book that you'll understand how this all came about. But just to come up and hit a man on the street like we're hitting the people today on a radio show and start into discussion of, oh, the king owns this and the king owns that and so on and so forth and the pope owns all of them, they won't understand.

38:58The Informer: In the very back of the book, I'm going to read the one page and this is the last inside page cover. The power structures of those that not only control America, but the world are what I refer to as the Big Three are as follows. The Pope controls all attorneys. They're the Knights Templars. It goes into detail. Therefore, all courts are ecclesiastical courts. Not what people think. So established with the intent that they will protect the Big Three's RICO establishment, the Pope controls all the banking in the world. The Crown Bank controls the gold, silver, and all minerals.

39:40The Informer: These are the people who set the prices of gold, silver, as well as oil on a daily basis in what is referred to as the London market. This alone should tell you where the control of the world rests, all the paper money that was set up to control the people. They gave authority to operate a RICO establishment. The Pope controls the Crown Bank, and he does. He never did before. He had his own bank. The King.

40:06The Informer: As king in council to this day, the city controls Congress and the legislatures of the United States and the states as they are mere agents by appointment through the governor of the Bank of England, the principal by contract, the charter of the Virginia Company in so much that the big three are not written into any statute so they can be sued without their consent. See page case 72 at the top. right there from the own government's documents that says they will not be cited to be sued in any statute that is written by Congress or the state legislature.

40:46The Informer: The Big Three dictate to their agents, Congress, their executive, and their private contract, courts to exact anything they wanted and control the common man by posing as a government when they are merely appointed agent fronts for the Big Three's racketeering corrupt, influenced organization. This way, the people would never know they are controlled by the same company established by the king, but now under the control of the city, the city of London separate from England to this day has controlled them from 1609 to the present day. They created the name United States under the one company, the Virginia Company, rather than continue to be known as the British Empire.

41:31The Informer: The United States became their corporate division, like Chevrolet is a division of General Motors. The three branches of the Chevy division are Suburban, Sprint, and Impala. The three branches of the U.S. are Congress, Executive, and the Courts. The states are mere satellites as they are the dealers of General Motors, some in all General Motors cars. So they have a neat package deal that protects those in the three branches from prosecution, unless they get so far out of hand the general populace gets so incensed that they have to save the status quo they jail a few if those in the states or branches go against the big three then they too will be dealt with but with the main goal is to subjugate the people to better control them this explains why the states can't secede from the corporation that we were talking about at the top of the show This pretend government saw that they can also get in on the scam and lop off a piece of our pie for themselves.

42:38The Informer: But remember, the way in black Pope, Vatican runs everything and controls all of the above. The criminal Pope controls you. And I got an email today, this morning, before I called you. And it was from a big meeting they had down here in Sherwood, North Carolina, and they used the Hayfield Research comes to the Carolinas. And in the research, they have a whole bunch of organizations in here. And it says, capitalism, however, has been a fundamental structural flaw, overproduction, under-condumption.

43:21The Informer: In Hayfield's language, the law of capital, the flaw of capitalism, And then they go in about the conspiracy theories and so on and so forth. And in here it says that Hayfield argues we need a new American Revolution. His purpose is to expose the Fabians, both past and present, and finally free ourselves from dominance of the crown. So they're partially right, but they don't know how far off they are. And he says, to what extent is Mr. Hayfield right?

43:55The Informer: I will say that he sent me several notebooks of research drawing my attention to facts such as the Fabian role of the roundtable groups, the Bilderbergers, the trilateralists, and see what they're doing here. Rockefeller Sr. and John Maynard Keyes and Edward Mendel House and John Dewey, and it goes through a lot of people and a lot of corporations and everything, but it never gets to the meat of, okay, if we're controlled by all these corporations and everything, like he says, why? Well, I'm going to give your readers a view here.

44:40The Informer: You can't copy this. It's non-copyable, but you can get it on the internet, and I do have this site i think i put it in the book if not i'm getting so many questions right now that i'm going to make answers and uh... answers to the questions and put them on a teaching press like montgomery did when he wrote his um... we're still under british control and so anybody after the book it's pretty well out and i feel that the questions and i'll put them into a package And then I will post the answers to the questions on the book and write, you know, so many people, if you put out 50 or a hundred books and you get 50 or a hundred questions and a lot of them will be duplicates.

45:29The Informer: So I'm going to go through a series of a few months and get all these questions and throw the duplicates all together and answer it. And that's how they'll find a lot of this stuff. But when I tried to copy this and I could sit down and write it out, but it's real time consuming. Now, I'm going to give you the organizational structure based on the Vatican and it comes right from the Vatican.

46:03The Informer: of the structure these are all blocks and they and they you know how the blocks come down they spread out yes it will tell you yeah it's a flow chart yeah and it's a block diagram of the organizational structure and the people just wants to put at the top of the block here's the top of the block satan slash lucifer draw a line down to the next block superior general of the jesuits here they have peter hands column back he's retired is now all the also nicholas under from that the jesuit order he rules a jesuit order under the jesuit order are this block that he rules council of thirteen of beverian illuminati council of thirty three degree nations of the scottish right the thirteen satanic bloodlines the committee of three hundred bernay bernice the grand orient drop down and underneath is there in the next group there is two groups money and banking group okay and on the next one you see if I can bring this over here is the sacred society group okay let's see who the black pope in the vatican controls in this group i just messed it up here i gotta bring it back it's real tricky when you when you operate this uh... having a photo editor right yeah and uh... if you use the uh... the mouse Yeah, and the block that they put here covers part of that.

47:58The Informer: So in the money group, here is who the Vatican controls today. The Federal Reserve, USA. European Central Bank, BCE. International Monetary Fund. World Bank. World Trade Organization. Natural Central Banks. International Bank of Settlements. World Conservation Bank. multinational corporations Exxon, Disney, Shell, Bayer, and Hollywood. Sounds interesting, doesn't it?

48:27Vyzygoth: Yeah.

48:28The Informer: Okay. The foundation of Rockefeller, the Nobel Foundation, the International International Banking Rothschild, Chase Manhattan Bank, Dutch Bank, Bank of England, Goldman and Sachs. That is who the Vatican controls. today. Now, let's go over to the Secret Society group and this you'll probably know some of these from this email that I got.

49:01The Informer: Freemasons, Scottish and York Rites, Skull and Bones, Grand Orient Lodge, Grand Alfvenia Lodge, Knights Templar, Royal Order of the Garter, Priory Decian, Rokushurans, the Thule Society, Knights of Malta, Knights of Columbus, and the P2 Lodge. Now, we come down from the Illuminati. The line goes to those two groups. And straight down from the Illuminati, there are more groups that the Black Pope controls in this country today. And here they are.

49:48The Informer: education group unesco world peace groups planetary congress world federalist association world constitution and parliamentary association environmental groups all of them wwf green peace interesting lucifer trust it's called lucas trust in the elusia strosta world good world goodwill world union Eastline Institute, all media establishments, American Society for Biology. Oh, wait a minute.

50:31The Informer: Let me get, okay. American Society for Microbiology. Now let's go over to the intelligence group. The Pope owns and controls exclusively these groups as many of them he set up himself. CIA, FBI, NSA, Program Echelon, USA, KGB, Mossad, Israel, BND, Germany, DGSE, France, the British Intelligence, SIS, the Communist Party, Interpol and Europol, drug cartels, FEMA, they put shadow government, USA, Secret Services of Pakistan drug cartels and organized crime.

51:22The Informer: That's what he controls today. People don't understand. Religious groups. Well, the Pope is not a religion. He's out to destroy, in the Vatican, out to destroy the words of the Lord so that he is not even recognized by anybody today. And this is the push to get In God we trust and prayer out of the schools and all this crap. Here's a religious group that the Vatican controls. World Council of Churches. That means everyone.

51:55Vyzygoth: Yep.

51:56The Informer: National Council of Churches. World Parliament of Religions. New Age Movements. Unity Church. Unitarian Universalist Church. Baja. Temple of Understanding.

52:10Vyzygoth: The Baja.

52:10The Informer: Vatican. The Pope and the Cardinals of the Vatican. Opus Dei. D-I. D-E-I. Roman Catholic Church. Al-Qaeda. Bin Laden. Theophysical Society. Nation of Islam in the USA. Hamas and Hezbollah. Interesting, huh? Here is the political groups that they control. National government leaders. United Nation, Bilderberger, Trilateral Commission, and I got pictures of the Black Pope with the entire Trilateral Commission, all assembled together in one room.

52:53The Informer: Council of Foreign Relations, Aspen Institute, Club of Rome, Bohemian Grove, European Union, NATO, Pilgrim Society, Fabian Society, Roundtable, Royal Institute of International Affairs, European royal families England Spain Netherlands and like one Institute francos that's relations internationals Now You want to know who runs this country The book tells everything Well, it doesn't have this in there because it's too big and I can't copy it and and it would take a long time to write it down in black form and then condense it and put it in something that people could read.

53:41Vyzygoth: All right, so where did this come from?

53:43The Informer: This comes right from the Vatican. It's on the source. Let me see. It is, um, if people want to get it, I'll give them the website, www.b-i-b-l-i-o-t-e. c a p l e y a d e s dot net and forward slash zoom z o o m i f y e r forward slash esp underscore or underline it's not a hyphen jesuits dot htm i would all do is up with those links up with the audio Tuesday and click on that as well yeah because i have them you sent them to me a while ago okay yeah yeah and uh... there's a lot of one here and i also got the uh... bookmark for uh... the uh...

54:51The Informer: The Vatican mortgage part one, and I found the Vatican mortgage part two of how they control all the mortgages in this country today, and how they did it. And also, that is, let me see, the website on that is www.will.com.

55:19The Informer: t h o m a s o n l i n e dot net If you get that it should go over because it's got forward slash and it repeats the same thing again So that's right there and also I got the book from the Jesuit uh... who was a jesuit member uh... edmund paris right the secret treaty yeah i mean secret history rather excuse me ticket history right right you know i have a pdf to them but he wants it if you want to look before you can if you want to send it to you that well what it is now uh... i went and i looked at uh... nicolas uh... about uh... and uh... or about for a nicolas he's the new black pope He actually had the Pope kicked out.

56:24The Informer: He was told to retire early. And as of January the 1st, Nicholas, Adolfo Nicholas, is the new Pope in 2009. Now, what is interesting is they relate to the Pope as controlling the Pentagon, the US Pentagon, But what he really is doing is he has a front man doing it for him who is Admiral Mullins, who is the chief of staff of the Pentagon. Now people would say, Oh, you know, I must be crazy and all this. Hey, it's right there on the internet. You can go and pull it up. You know, it's nothing that you can't find, but nobody looks.

57:09The Informer: They put everything out in plain sight, but they don't come in. This is where my research skills came in, because when I told another well-known researcher, I said, you can't find this in a statute. You ain't going to find this written. Jump out and say, oh, look, this is what I did to all you people. They are not that crazy that they're going to give this information to anybody that just wants to look for it.

57:41Vyzygoth: like if you're going to keep a secret you're going to write something down for someone to find that secret are you well army you know that's that's common sense look you know we've talked about this before and still the idea of that kind of structure to most americans and i mean americans right uh... is laughable and i understand you know for all the reasons why they felt that way but when i first came upon this And I started to check it out.

58:09Vyzygoth: I mean, you go to more sources, and in this case, back in time, and you realize, and we've always said this, that Europeans are very much more aware of the instigations and the provocaturing of the Vatican before, during, and after the Jesuits took them over, because there was a bit of a spat there going on for a while, and then finally the Jesuits did take control of the Vatican. But no matter what, I mean the papacy has always been despotic regardless who's been there. That's right. And it's gone on this long. I mean it's a massive part of history that is very much covered up in the United States and I sent you along something. that Charles Wilcox, who wrote the Transformation of the Republic, sent me.

58:50Vyzygoth: And those were JPEG's images of a newspaper back in, what, 1891 called The Patriotic American, which posted Pope Leo XIII's encyclical, the bull. And what is it saying there? Is that they declare everything on this earth the property of the vicar of Christ, and that is the Pope. yeah that's right and they think that you know you know whatever happened to that that that document uh... that newspaper and again you know he showed other things to with the whole idea about the bad it can be a toll by the u.s.

59:23Vyzygoth: government if you don't give up john uh... surrogate uh... i'm sorry sorat who was involved in the link of conspiracy we're gonna break off diplomatic relations with you right and that was posted in new york dailies of the time nobody remembers it you don't see anything about it

59:41The Informer: Nobody wants to go back in time and most patriots can't see the end of their nose or the end of their fingers, what they can touch. They don't look for something and nobody plans in America 200 years down the road. They're self-serving. They, you know, can only see as far as they're going to live, maybe. And that's it.

1:00:06Vyzygoth: You know, again, I've beaten this to death, but that's what happened. I mean, I followed it. I had heard Phelps originally, and I thought he was crazy. And then I checked it out. I went to other books and other people. And then you go back in time, and you realize that people give you first aid accounts all through the 19th century.

1:00:22The Informer: Oh, yeah. You know, watch out for this. Right. When I had, I had about three people helping me on this book. And one of the researchers, I put it in chapter seven, and I put other researchers' finding and involvement. In conversation with another man that does research, he said to what I found. And here's his quote, and I put it right in here from his email. Now I see Esquire means a Knight Templar even today. The fact that a lawyer's first responsibility is to the court makes perfect sense. His allegiance is to the Vatican through the king and council And this is why we are considered the children of the court, of course. The pope declares us to be his children.

1:01:06The Informer: The pope is the father, and the church, the mother. They are telling us it's an ecclesiastical court. So the United States of America, as plaintiff in Congress, and I'm going to leave out his mistake,

1:01:26Vyzygoth: All right.

1:01:27The Informer: The United States of America, as plaintiff in Congress, King in Council, Bank of England, Vatican, the ecclesiastical court represented by the King's bench. Now the King's bench has to be an ecclesiastical court by the Treaty of 1213. As stated, the King takes a special interest in the King's bench. Of course he has to by his treaty obligation to the Pope. There is not an agency in bankruptcy. Is there not an agency in bankruptcy in every courtroom in a tax case? One for each state. I forgot the details of this. Well, his details was what I had sent him before.

1:02:05The Informer: There are 60 trustees of the United States that are cognizant of every tax case in America. If this is correct, the Pope's agent is in the courtroom. Yeah, he is. This makes the case legit, but we don't know it. everybody there's in the king's bench is running the show for his boss the pope and the pope is in the crown's court room and anyone who has an attorney has hired an agent of the court. In other words, what he says here is what I found and told him that all attorneys in the world, which is not listed in this organizational structure, all the attorneys in the world and courts are owned and created by the Black Pope in the Vatican because they chartered the ABA, not as an ABA, but they chartered the Bar Association, which was created in 1355.

1:03:07The Informer: Everyone in court, that's why the judges wear black robes representing the Black Pope. People don't understand this. They think, oh, the myth was we set up this constitution. We wrote this. We ratified it. Yeah, they didn't ratify it squat. Their signature can't even be put on there. And when they go to read Lysander Spooner, he laid it right out in his constitution of no authority that the framers only witnessed it. If you read the constitution at the back, It says they witnessed this document.

1:03:49The Informer: You can't witness something unless it was presented to you by another party. And the other party was the Pope, King, and bank that wrote the Constitution that they adopted. And that's why they only signed it as witnesses and not as a binding contract amongst themselves.

1:04:10Vyzygoth: I just want to mention, because I haven't before, and that is I'll have a link to order this book, The Constitution for the United States, The Myth and the Reality, Just Who Owns the United States. I'm going to make it available through my PayPal just to make it more facilitative for you folks who don't want to go through the process you might have gone through before, which is the postal money order and then mailing it to I-Man. So you can still do that, you can still go to informerarchives.com and go through that same process or you can go to my website where you're listening to this audio from with the links that he's mentioned and also it'll be a click on to say to order the myth and the reality. We'll just keep it short and you can do it that way and all funds go to the I-Man.

1:04:54Vyzygoth: So we're going to do that to see if if it helps stimulate, if you would, some sales, not because they've done badly, just because I know it's a click, and a lot of people want to do that this way nowadays. Also, you know, Ironman, when you and I first began, and we didn't talk much about the Vatican in the first year or more, I had come upon it another way, you came upon it as well, but the last few times we've been together, we've talked more about it. The thing that is such a hard sell for folks, and obviously it's not our business to try to convince anybody, but for people to make themselves aware, and that is, you've been told in scripture what the conspiracy is about.

1:05:36Vyzygoth: right like you just said who sits on top of the the hill it's a now people will believe it's a business of tentacles but they don't believe it's a right i would and let me let me just add this is my take right now what's going on the vatican and the pope are storefronts their facades the state who works through the jesuit general the true black pope right and only that but every president in this country had been put there by the vatican everyone because you know the vatican

1:06:05The Informer: How are they going? How's the black pope going to come over here and do everything that he's supposed to do to run his corporation? Well, he's got to have a front man, just like the mafia has, right? Sure. The front man is the president. In the book, it goes in and it shows you that every president in this country was an attorney. Every governor of North Carolina but two from the inception in 1776 has been an attorney. And that's why attorneys have to be the front man.

1:06:47The Informer: And the president, most of them are attorneys, even in the other organizational structure that I have that I got from the internet. gives people that you would not believe that are controlled or accede to the control of the Pope. And Martin Sheen, there are many Hollywood people, because of the organizational structure, it says Disneyland, Hollywood, Exxon, multinational corporations are controlled by the Pope. but they're controlled by the pope. I mean, he doesn't come up and say, Hey, here I am.

1:07:31The Informer: Now you do this and you do that. You know, no, it's more subtle. It is who is controlling them. Uh, do you know that in the one article, the actual book that I have, believe it or not, there are people in there like prior, um, Jesse Jackson, um, Oh, well-known dignitaries and movie stars well gives it is all man are heavy into that no it's in his father again what is the old mel gibson yes yes you don't know what you whatever's name is the only uh... uh... uh... yeah i just i don't

1:08:17Vyzygoth: there's so many that uh... it just boggles the mind well what we should overlook though and that's what happened last week and you know i say this somewhat tongue-in-cheekly but i think that's the truth and that is you got a new president last week it wasn't it wasn't obama it was stolen dull it is now the archbishop in new york city which is the number one spot amongst all uh... cardinals in the united states so he came out of milwaukee he took his place in that he's the one that's run in the show because the cfr is a couple of blocks down the road and right though is a couple of blocks down the road uh... it's not a coincidence and uh... that's why uh... and the pope wants to kill somebody because one of the president decided he's going to go against them

1:09:04The Informer: lincoln's uh... example uh... mckinley is another example kennedy is another example uh... they feel the poison you can but the poison taylor right chirps areas of milk was sour okay uh... and that's called the board poisoning and board is the second yet board you know i think that's what uh... yeah and uh... i forget whether he was a third of the fourth pope and it was him that called the board your poisoning and when the white pope's would not followed the dictates of the jesuit black pope they were killed also john paul the first if you look at that and it's fiction based on fact in the movie godfather three uh... and that's why uh... he controls that's why is that they say in the organizational structure they control the drug cartels in the mafia

1:09:58Vyzygoth: well and also there's there's some photos uh... i'd believe spiritually sport dot com has has quite a few where you see the pope and sometimes but the court was in europe and others uh... given the sick i'll read a little bit off in the boys and when they give the uh... goats uh... salute the boards uh... yeah i don't know if you've the last the the less pinky and the first finger

1:10:28The Informer: are what was shown and they even show the people Bush doing it and giving it and another guy is standing there and another thing in Congress with his hand up on his lapel like he's going to salute the flag, but he's got the goat fingers sitting there right on his breast.

1:10:51Vyzygoth: uh... there was a photo in one of the uh... uh... british dailies uh... showed bush and his wife and i i think i might have blare and his wife and you can see the bush's got the horse that by his side of the stature right in the face it was in the mainline newspaper right and you wonder about it you know i mean it it i don't want to get into too much of other other things but i'm still wondering what the world that that it's it's about with the extended index figure yeah i got you know i got a photo bush and uh... this particular with the public who that was

1:11:20The Informer: uh... that's even if that's a bit of a sudden grip as far as i can tell but something's going on when you when you see this all the time oh yeah and uh... who's at that guy of the church of Scientology yeah ron Hubbard he was also under the Jesuits control and so is the guy that movie star with him and his wife you told us about that the uh... no one to go to the other guy although yet uh... uh... uncrewed yet he's under jesuit control well the headquarters right across the bay from here uh... and uh... you know the american people never having been exposed to this think we're crazy uh... you've got to be a little bit and you know your here i think if i presented this to my brother he would say i'm crazy

1:12:15Vyzygoth: uh... because i don't rather you know but you see this is the point where you get to it's like you want to know it don't you and most people don't want to assume that but then that the other things you'll get a chance that of course they do though separated because you want to take a look doesn't mean it's not true but you get to go ahead and say it's all false but you never did anything well before the book come out there was some well-known patriots that uh... i'll let have a little info

1:12:43The Informer: Two of them blacklisted me from their email. Yeah. They said, I'm crazy. Uh, I have no proof. Uh, let's get back to the basics, which is statutes. And you know, they said, why don't I go back to the old way that I did everything and get to the fundamental. I wrote back to this one guy and I says, this is the most basic fundamental thing you will ever get. as to why all the statutes that you are going and using fail to be productive in what you're doing.

1:13:19The Informer: You can't use the statutes against them in their courts that are controlled by the man that controls all courts, which is their final resting place to quell anything that you might have administrative or legislatively done to do to get yourself out of the system. And if you go to court, you lose. And I even put two particular cases in here in the book, which I quoted right out of the New History of America.

1:13:55The Informer: And that was the Templeton and the Slater case, where the court come right out and said that Templeton did not Well, it's page one, page 54. And this is what the court said in the Templeton case. Finally addressed Templeton's second amalgam in which she claims she is not a person liable or a taxpayer as those terms are defined in the Internal Revenue Code.

1:14:29The Informer: Oh, by the way, the Vatican, I am trying and having a one hard time, but the Vatican, through all of my research, created the Internal Revenue Service because I have been in constant conflict with the GAO since December 16th when they came out in their audit and said that the IRS is a foreign corporation. They didn't say it was anything to do with the United States, the GAO. And I had been back and forth and they clammed right up on me. But anyway, getting back to this, it says, the court says, and this is the judge's quote, Section 6103 do not apply in her case.

1:15:09The Informer: We agree with the district court that this claim is patently frivolous as Templeton does not dispute that she is a citizen of the United States. And because the code imposes an income tax on every individual who was a citizen or resident of the United States, 26 CFR 1.1-1A, 1985, it would clearly contradict the plain meaning of the term, not a word, to conclude that Congress did not intend that Templeton be considered as a taxpayer as the term is used throughout the code. End of quote. Now, what I did in my book is I pled with Templeton to argue she is not a U.S.

1:15:54The Informer: citizen and even sent her in my book, Which One Are You, that explains all of this. But she would not heed my advice because, by golly, she was a U.S. citizen and had all the rights that the Constitution said she had and was going to prove she is a sovereign who created the Constitution to protect her. Besides, who was I to express the truth? She knew the truth by the Constitution and myth that told her. She lost, as did Slater, another one. But people, she said to me, after she lost, quote, I should have listened to what you said, end quote. But people have to learn the hard way. It's human nature.

1:16:35The Informer: not to listen to a raving lunatic that goes against two hundred years of fraud to bring forth the truth they are the pope's templars in the federal district courts that are all ecclesiastical courts that you never knew that where they try her it was in arizona texas uh... no she's in michigan uh... minister of minnesota i'm sorry minnesota because i know when that happened in the just you know that's oh yeah Yeah.

1:17:02The Informer: And that's my, uh, you know, if you go on, if people really want to go on to ATG press and look at a synopsis that I wrote in 1998, go to the big lie, the beginning of the big lie. It's on ATG press. All they have to do is read that as a primer for this book. I couldn't put it all together and I just let it drop after I got out of being a taxpayer in 1998. I went on leave. Why should I bother?

1:17:46The Informer: Nobody was believing me. Nobody was reading all this stuff that was on ATG press and putting it into use. There is a man called Nagy that lives down in South Carolina that did take it and I was told by the people who run ATG Press that this guy is whippin' butt big time in a lot of small stuff based on what he read from my stuff on ATG Press. Now him and one other guy is the only two guy, another guy way out west, his name is Don Wert, he'll verify for that because he has not paid an income tax since 1980-something after he read my book and He swears by it and he says he's got all his information from ATG Press and put it to use and so far he's about as free as he can get.

1:18:42Vyzygoth: Again, we've been talking to the Iron Man, and the new book out is the Constitution for the United States, the Myth and the Reality. Just who owns the United States? You can order it through PayPal on my website. You can still go back to informerarchives.com and order it if you've done it before, the old way. That's still good, no problem with that whatsoever. I just want to end with one thing, if you don't mind, and this could open up another can of worms, but because it is so timely, okay the other day obviously obama gave uh... his speech before uh... congress any of this night yeah i think this will be last week when they hear those but that's okay uh... yeah and uh... and he was introduced as a president of the united states we we write this sheet tell us what is rich he'll never be uh... presented in any way as the president of the united states of america that's like

1:19:34The Informer: when he goes before the big congress and all that, and he goes, and I tell people to look for this. And the crier sits there and says, I now present the President of the United States, and everybody, uh, who, and claps and waves. It never says America. The reason why, if he was the President of all of America, all of the states, every governor would have to go to the President for any bill passed and get him to sign off on it.

1:20:05The Informer: so he can't be a president of the conglomeration of states of the corporation of the pope because that's why they installed all governors all right so when he what is the united states that he's president of that little uh... corporations structure of the mother corporation as would be gm over chrysler over uh... all the uh... chevy products in other words Washington D.C.

1:20:34The Informer: was a corporation way before everybody erroneously believes was done in 1871 when everybody says, oh, that was when it was formed as a corporation. No, it wasn't because I've got the documents going back to 1826. When Alexandria, Washington City, Georgetown went bankrupt and who bought them out? Of course, the Pope through his United States Congress assembled.

1:21:19The Informer: They were his front men at that time, besides the president. So here you had Uh, those companies going bankrupt and in 1826 to 1834, the, the Congress came in, they didn't have a lot of money, right? Uh-huh. Uh, there was so much money back to the brief, uh, bank that, uh, they were almost bankrupt themselves. So how did they have the money to buy up Georgetown, Alexandria, Washington city?

1:21:56The Informer: uh... uh... and surrounding areas and by their bankruptcy after they wouldn't go bankrupt they continue to operate them where they finally settled in washington d because you look at washington d c alexandria it's up there in the upper right hand corner her left hand corner when you look at the ten miles square brothers across the baton it is is that part of the sea right right now now it is uh... But that's why he can't be called the President of the United States of America.

1:22:33The Informer: Because the little word of means belonging to or emanating from a larger thing. So America is the nation, not the United States of America, not the states, not the North American continent where they have United States, Canada, and Mexico written on the original maps well on the original map before the United States was formed it was America where United States is now so America is a nation belonging to well the United States it's the same way as the city of London it's not a British corporation it's not a British entity at all the landmasses it's a private of its own corporation in England, and that's why they call it the Bank of England, the Bank belonging to England on the soil.

1:23:37The Informer: The same way with the Vatican. Did you know that the Vatican just now has told the Italian government that it is a foreign nation and it is seceding from Italy and will no longer follow Italian law? It is a law unto itself. It used to be in 1921, and then they made a deal with Italy, I don't know how, but they became subject to Italian law. And when this new pope went in, he says, no more, guys. We own you. We own every land. We own, forget about it, we own it. We own you. We are a sovereign nation. And it's right posted on the newspapers and was in i think uh... uh... one of the big uh... like u.s.

1:24:29Vyzygoth: news was today so i don't you have to say that and i would have no longer go that that happened was like one of them that was in january yeah i remember you know what you know the united states is to ambassadors want to uh... italy or to the vatican yeah they have ambassadors to the vatican right and inside the vatican to i think there's another nation state which is the best of malta

1:24:51The Informer: Yeah, and if you look at your organizational structure, that is controlled by the Illuminati, the Knights of Malta. That's another separate entity of its own belonging to the Pope.

1:25:04Vyzygoth: Just let me clear up one other thing before we go. The original purchase for the land of Washington, D.C. was to comprise a 10-mile square area that would have been a square had it extended across the Potomac, correct?

1:25:19The Informer: Yeah, but it doesn't now because when I found out what the square mileage is, it's about two-thirds of what it said, and it came from the archivist that I talked to in Washington, D.C.

1:25:45The Informer: and they had sent me an email and said it's it's no longer ten miles where it's it's uh... two-thirds of that which is why we see draw the way we do yeah yeah where it's truncated let's all this kind of oil it's cut by the at the top of it uh... alright was that archivist library congress and uh... if the people want to know they can go uh... february eighteen thirty six twenty fourth congress The House of Representatives report number 269, relief to the corporations of Washington, Alexandria, and Georgetown District of Columbia. It was accompanied the bill HR number 275.

1:26:30The Informer: And right there is a committee for the District of Columbia to which we referred a memorial of the corporations of Washington, Georgetown, and Alexandria, praying that relief may be afforded them in their pecuniary embarrassments have had the same under consideration and has to leave respectfully to submit the following report. And in there, it gives the whole report. How many? Well, Alexandria had a debt for the Holland loan and sundry other debts of uh... four hundred and five thousand and one hundred and forty eight dollars and forty nine and three quarters sex yeah that and the entire debt of the corporation is four hundred and seventy seven thousand seven hundred seventy six dollars washington city was one million eight hundred ninety six thousand seventy nine dollars this is what was brought up

1:27:39Vyzygoth: of the three corporations and they even says statement of the deaths of three corporations and of course that includes georgetown which is uh... headquarters of pope well less in the united states and that's that's where they tried uh... john soran got a hung jury uh... interestingly this confessor was was the norm with it for a lot of baltimore another big uh... jesuit city and and uh...

1:28:04The Informer: You know, so I've got all these documents a lot of a lot of Patriots would call or email me and say oh you're full of it and everything So I just make a copy of this and I send it to them. They shut right up. They don't know what to say Well, you know, it's it's all myth. They're all following myths. Oh, yeah that has been 220 years in the making and so everybody you know you get a person today was born in 1960 and 1965, 1980, 1990, they have no clue of what is going on.

1:28:40The Informer: All they do is parrot what they hear from their parents who were just as well into the myth and the fraud because they didn't know that their ignorance entails anything known to man. And it's done that way purposely. They're not ignorant on their, well,

1:29:02Vyzygoth: i'd say they're angry because they don't question anything well they follow well and the irony of it if you'll if you'll allow me is this when i came into this uh... i was a victim also of sanitized history textbooks in in the books from ash pop up this publishing houses oh i was to get a little too but now you know i got it but then i went further and here's the wall that you hit and then of these people who are listening to show host to tell them that the constitution is you know we gotta get it back we have to get our country back they don't know that what they read was was bogus in history books but they're going to hang on to this one particular fable because they need to yet now here's what i put in the book is on page three

1:29:51The Informer: The theory of cognitive dissonance, Leon Fester, Stanford University Press, 1957, holds that the mind involuntarily rejects information not in line with previous thoughts or actions. Festing or observed, a person can deal with the pressure generated by changing the dissonance of the old behavior to harmonize with the information. That would be the truth. But if a person is committed to the old behavior and way of thinking, he simply rejects the new information. A simple quote, I don't believe it, and quote, thought or word is an easy cop out.

1:30:34The Informer: For if you are unaware, you are unaware of being unaware. And Thomas Paine had it nice. Reason and ignorance, the opposites of each other, influence the great bulk of mankind. if either of these can be rendered sufficiently extensive in a country. That's ignorance. The machinery of government goes easily on. Reason obeys itself, and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. The rights of man, Thomas Paine. That's where we're at now. Ignorance is not a state of not knowing.

1:31:17The Informer: When reason is present, but the knowledge is lacking, The term frequently refers to nothing other than the lack of knowledge. This lack of knowledge can be corrected. It is the willfully ignorant mind, one that is purposely closed and unaccepting of knowledge that undermines his views of the world, that we will have a very difficult time accepting the simple facts presented in this book. That's how I started it out.

1:31:45Vyzygoth: uh... let me end up with this because uh... i thought it was funny so to speak back then i'd believe to be partially true and i realized it was but uh... it probably is the single word you could use for the history of the world and that was the beginning of the movie reds where warm baby plays the character of uh... the communist at that time and i'm not going to remember his name uh... uh... but uh... they asked him at a uh... big dinner He's sitting at the dais, and they asked him if he would tell everybody what that war, that Bolshevik war was about in Russia, and he stood up with that stupid grin of Warren Beatty's, and he said, you remember this? He goes, prophets. And he sat back down. And that's really what it comes down to.

1:32:30Vyzygoth: And it's John, I can't remember, John Reed, that was the actual character. okay john reed who i believe is buried in russia but he was a journalist that went back and forth and that's that's that that's what opens up the movie reds it is what is it all about his parents uh... without a dinner so there you go that's what it's always about to get about you know uh... places that are giving a liberty to huddle masses uh... it's all about the money that's right it's all about the money because actually the vatican is the word revelations When you read Revelation, they fit that to a T. Yeah, and also you follow what happens, and that is once the Lord dashes that Babylon, all of a sudden the captains of industry and profiteering now have nothing any longer.

1:33:25The Informer: Right.

1:33:25Vyzygoth: They're wiped out in a minute.

1:33:27The Informer: Well, that's why all the courts, the Ecclesiastical Courts, remember Howard Freeman?

1:33:32Vyzygoth: Yes, I do.

1:33:33The Informer: Okay. You remember when he would have and go to the courts and he said, would put his questions to the court. Well, is this a court of this? Was this the court of this? Is this court this way? He never hit ecclesiastical. That's how well they have hidden it. But the ecclesiastical court, and I've got the three volumes of ecclesiastical law here. And boy, when you start reading that, you can see the pope all over every court in this country but you know that every judge every lawyer is aware of that united states no of course not uh... they are just as ignorant as the rest of the american uh... people are on that and uh... a lot of times uh... well what that small some of our art some of them are put there one well-known patriot lawyer i'm not going to mention names but he's in that well i know that this is and he would always blast uh... montgomery anytime he could it we brits you know you know it's in the plant so that jerry uh... well i'm not going to do that but i think i know uh... anyway that's that's what it is now here's where they come in and you made a good point very good point the ecclesiastical courts operate under what law uh... there's only one and they can operate under and it was written right into the seventeen eighty nine constitutional uh... jurisdictional premises the law of hammer abhi although that's right go back to it and it is that i'm that that's it that's about the the law of hammer abhi is international admiralty and that's what the courts operate under and why do they do that because all revenue is under Admiralty law.

1:35:32The Informer: And the Jackson and the Magnolia and all these Admiralty cases state it so clearly, but what patriot is ever going to look at an Admiralty case? He ain't going to go to American maritime cases. He ain't going to go to FRD, Federal Rules of Decision.

1:35:54Vyzygoth: and read the actual cases that are admiral t based on all revenue you know it but it does seem to me and i believe this is an exception you'll tell me that you might be able to get constitutional rights in uh... the criminal court in capital cases oh yeah uh... in uh... murder yeah

1:36:22The Informer: robbery, assault and battery, they are all the only thing that really the Pope can't control because it's written into the Ten Constitutions of the Lord and this is what they have one big headache on trying to get rid of because if they got rid of that there would be anarchy in the courts like you wouldn't believe.

1:36:53Vyzygoth: you could go up and shoot a judge or kill anybody and it'd be no repercussions because that's what the pope wants total anarchy well will control i think one of the things we're going to see in time of the the structures already uh... be built or has been built and that is we're going to go to an international with this rule a lot always gets me like nervous because they throw this at you all the time but this international rule of law will do away with juries in a lobby tribunals as far as i can see

1:37:21The Informer: Yeah, yeah, because see, in amity, in straight amity, there is no jury. And when they do put the juries in, and you read it in amity, it says, in an amity case, a jury is for the conscience of the court. Because then the court could say, if the person found one way or the other, I didn't do it, the jury did it. Right.

1:37:43Vyzygoth: Right.

1:37:46The Informer: But in all revenue cases, You really don't have a right to a jury in a criminal action because now they can say it's theft and it is because the people don't understand. Um, uh, you're using private federal reserve notes that have a lien on them already, which are debt IOUs and you are using the debt IOUs to further your uh... agenda of making money and it ain't money and in fact um... at the congressman was on the internet and the guy sent it to me on youtube of this guy jane who is interviewing this uh... congressman and uh... the congressman actually through about of his office and the guy was asking questions at the average person would ask which was not right and the congressman kept saying you don't understand this you know This is a nation and nations do not have debts like personal people.

1:38:51The Informer: They are our money. Debt is our basis of living as a nation. And he says it has no bearing on what you're arguing here about the debt and shouldn't we pay the debt down and why are you going to borrow so much money and the guy says well if you're going to borrow eight trillion dollars or eight hundred and some billion dollars on a five trillion dollar debt then you know and he's going on and I can see the congressman getting madder and madder because I understood what the congressman was saying to this guy but this guy is like the average American and believe that the government should operate as they do and pay their bills when it is and not spend a lot of money but that is not how the Pope operates.

1:39:55The Informer: I have since stopped calling the government a government because it is a corporation. It is all that people have ever been dealing with in their entire lives is a corporation under corporate law and not a social government law that everybody believes this country is under today. That be the state or the federal, because like I said, if you take the word federal and go to Webster's Dictionary, the word federal means contract. So any time you have federal income tax Federal government, federal rules of decision replace the word federal with contract and that's what you are dealing in, contract.

1:40:41Vyzygoth: all right i mean listen thanks a lot for staying with us uh... over as usual appreciate it again the book is the constitution united states but that's the reality just who owns the united states and you can go through paypal my site and also go to a t g press dot com there's other books he's written there as well another one of my favorites uh... which i have always up my ready is the new history of america but there's more out there as well all right i mean thanks a lot for being with us okay and will afford to appreciate it okay A million old soldiers will fade away But a dream goes on forever I'm left standing here, I got nothing to say All is silent within my dream, yeah A thousand true loves have been dying But a dream lives on forever The days and the years will go speaking by But the time has stopped in my view But that doesn't get me through a sea of tears Over life's biggest tragedy So long ago and so far away But my dream is on forever I guess I believe that I'll see you one day Or without a face of me You're so far away You'll never know, oh, till you join me within my dreams.

1:43:17Vyzygoth: How much I loved you, you'll never know, oh, till you join me within my dreams.